I don’t have enough context to identify which Joanne and Fabrizio you’re referring to, and I can’t access live sources in this turn. If you can share a bit more detail, I can help pinpoint what was said and provide a clear answer. For example, you could specify:

• The show, podcast, article, or public figure involved (if any),
• The date or event when the statements were made,
• A brief quote or snippet you remember.

If you’d like, I can also summarize typical ways to verify such statements reliably:

• Check primary sources (the podcast episode, interview transcript, or official social posts),
• Look for reputable recap articles that cite the original exchange,
• Cross-check with multiple independent outlets to confirm exact wording.